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Harry Reid on Rockefeller and Byrd

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Post by Aaron Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:46 pm

They did plenty wrong. Hank Paulson wrote a bill that bailed out his buddies on Wall Street and as a result, the company he used to run will get richer and that is with the support of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and congress along with GWB who was so worried about his legacy that he signed a bad bill.

And yes, I blame accounting rules. Had mark to market been in play in the 80's the top 10 US banks would have failed due to outstanding loans to 3rd world countries.

Instead of remaining a dumbass, why don't you try educating yourself?
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:07 pm

Why does it seem that when you don't want government intervention the government is intruding. Yet when you want to absolve companies of responsibility suddenly the rules not being enforced are to blame.
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Post by Stephanie Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:19 pm

Andrea,

Why don't you take Sam's suggestion and ask your Senators and Representative why the same drug developed and manufactured in the USA are sold to Canadian pharmacies and hospitals for so much less than American pharmacies and hospitals, Andrea.

Not to step on Aaron's toes, but what sense is there in making new laws further restricting and burdening law abiding corporations while failing to enforce existing laws to reign in law breaking corporations? They ignore one law, they'll ignore the next.
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:25 pm

What law exactly are they breaking here in the US by charging more for drugs than they do in Canada? Or Australia? Supposedly they say that they have to because of FDA regulations. But do not safe drugs benefit all purchasers whether they be here or in Canada? So why is the cost not spread out more? In many cases the price difference is huge for which there is no reasonable explanation.

Is it because they can't get away with those types of prices in Canada or Australia? Or is it because it is really necessay as they portray?

I just came off of the website http://www.planetdrugsdirect.com Cialis is $490.00 for 32 tablets here in the US. In Canada the price is $79.00 a difference of $411.00. That to me is outrageous. I wonder how many people take Cialis. What profit is made on that one drug alone. Is that necessary or is it greed?


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Post by Stephanie Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:13 pm

Canada has price controls, as do many other nations. In effect what is happening is Canadians and Europeans are paying only the cost of manufacturing the pill, Americans are paying for all the research and development.

Our Congress could pass laws to fix that, but they don't.
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Post by Andrea Cristobal Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:17 pm

Stephanie wrote:Canada has price controls, as do many other nations. In effect what is happening is Canadians and Europeans are paying only the cost of manufacturing the pill, Americans are paying for all the research and development.

Our Congress could pass laws to fix that, but they don't.

We crossed posts as I was was editing. Yes that absolutely should be fixed.
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Post by Stephanie Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:22 pm

I would imagine my idea of a "fix" would be substantially different from yours, though. Why should the burden of research and development fall solely on American consumers? Why shouldn't everyone shoulder part of that burden?

We pay and pay and pay and the rest of the world benefits meanwhile, I just found out the first friend I made in this state went without her prescriptions this month because she couldn't afford to purchase them.
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Post by Aaron Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:58 pm

Andrea Cristobal wrote:Why does it seem that when you don't want government intervention the government is intruding. Yet when you want to absolve companies of responsibility suddenly the rules not being enforced are to blame.

How about you show some documentation to back up any of that lie you just told!!!!
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Post by Aaron Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:00 pm

So the question is, if Canada and other countries have price controls and America's is going to the same system (and everyone knows that is where we are headed unless it's stopped) and institutes the same price controls, what incentives are drug companies going to have in finding the breakthrough for Aids, Cancer, Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s?

What you call greed I call capital resources that allow companies to take on the research needed for advancements that not only help me keep a boner for a few hours, they take the profits from that and put it into research to find a drug that helps reduce my grandmother’s shaking from Parkinson’s so she can manage her everyday life.
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