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SheikBen wrote:

TerryRC wrote:Is everyone who works for WalMart "in bed with Walmart" the same way as the CEO is?

Is Obama the CEO of Big Oil? Your analogy is absurd.

Palin has been friendly to Big Oil as Gov. of Alaska far more than Obama has as President.

Regardless, you are not addressing the disconnect: First Obama is stifling big oil, now he is in bed with them. You don't have to agree with Obama to point out that she is contradicting herself, your denials aside.

If he were to make it mandatory for every household in the US to have a gun, people like Palin would accuse him of "being in bed with the NRA".

The oil supply is not necessarily of the same consequence to the American consumer that it is to the oil companies.

Now THAT's a refreshing breath of truth!

I took a ride up into Ohio and spent the night in Amish country and on my way up Terry, I thought a lot about this one sentence from your post. In all my years of posting I have never printed anything that would give you reason or cause to think that I am a racist or that I think President Obama is doing a bad job simply because of the color of his skin yet you accuse me of that very thing. Why?

Guilty conscience?

If you note, I never accused you of that. It is what it boils down to for many people, though.

Had a guy cite psalm 109:

'Let his days be few; and let another take his office
May his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow'

When I cornered him about how Obama is so bad that people think he deserves death, he couldn't name any specific thing. Turns out he just doesn't like a nigger in the white house and finally admitted it.

Considering you seen to prefer an inept quitter to Obama, I really wonder what your true motivation is.

And you told me my opinion was incorrect. As you’ve yet to prove that so, you still owe me an explanation as to how my opinion is incorrect, preferably with something a little more substantial then your opinion.

I did.

Strikes against Palin:

Quitter.
Can't take the media, can't take the heat.
Stupid - couldn't name a single newspaper and thought Africa was a country.

My favorite strike against her is that the citizens of her own state think she bungled the job and wouldn't want her back.

In short, she is inept.

Perhaps you think these things qualify her. I don't.

The oil supply is not necessarily of the same consequence to the American consumer that it is to the oil companies.

Again, Sheik, you ignore my point:

Palin has been friendly to Big Oil as Gov. of Alaska far more than Obama has as President.

Regardless, you are not addressing the disconnect: First Obama is stifling big oil, now he is in bed with them. You don't have to agree with Obama to point out that she is contradicting herself, your denials aside.

TerryRC wrote:I took a ride up into Ohio and spent the night in Amish country and on my way up Terry, I thought a lot about this one sentence from your post. In all my years of posting I have never printed anything that would give you reason or cause to think that I am a racist or that I think President Obama is doing a bad job simply because of the color of his skin yet you accuse me of that very thing. Why?

Guilty conscience?

If you note, I never accused you of that. It is what it boils down to for many people, though.

Bullshit Terry. I'm not many people so when you brought it up, you accused me. Stop trying to weasleword out of your mistake like a coward and either back your statement, apoligize or prove yourself a blowhard liar.

Bullshit Terry. When you brought it up, that's exactly what you did. As I said, either back your statement, apoligize or prove yourself a blowhard liar.

What I said: I guess a crazy white conservative that had an exorcism to rid herself of witches and thinks that "what newspapers do you read" is a "gotcha question" is a better choice for POTUS than a progressive darkie that shows no signs of instability.

Do you see your name in there anywhere? If it doesn't apply to you, fine. If it does apply to you, be ashamed.

Either way, I don't care.

You insulted me in another thread, implying than I am lazy and grasping because I work for the state even though you have no idea of how hard I work.

I'll tell you what, you apologize for attacking my character and I'll apologize for whatever you think I have done to attack yours.

If not, shut your puling mouth.

Your a liar Terry and if you don't like that, you know exactly where I live.

Your a liar Terry and if you don't like that, you know exactly where I live.

I don't beat on old fat men.

You are mad because I made a general statement: I guess a crazy white conservative that had an exorcism to rid herself of witches and thinks that "what newspapers do you read" is a "gotcha question" is a better choice for POTUS than a progressive darkie that shows no signs of instability.

I did not specifically address it at you. If the shoe fits, however...

Where did I lie? You just can't back that up.

It's easy to write the check but when the time comes to cash it, it's a different story altogether. I'm not suprised Terry, not in the least.

It's easy to write the check but when the time comes to cash it, it's a different story altogether. I'm not suprised Terry, not in the least.

Snort. Lose a few pounds and we'll chat.

TerryRC wrote:The oil supply is not necessarily of the same consequence to the American consumer that it is to the oil companies.

Again, Sheik, you ignore my point:

Palin has been friendly to Big Oil as Gov. of Alaska far more than Obama has as President.

Regardless, you are not addressing the disconnect: First Obama is stifling big oil, now he is in bed with them. You don't have to agree with Obama to point out that she is contradicting herself, your denials aside.

A few things.

1-People do not like Obama for a litany of reasons. If racism is part of the anti-Obama crowd, it accounts for 1 percent if that. I do not like Obama primarily because of partial-birth abortion but also for his economic policies. He could be an Irish Catholic from Boston for all I care. I'm sure I wouldn't vote for that guy, either:)

2-I absolutely addressed the issue, although you didn't catch it. You can altogether stifle oil production and yet be "in bed" with an oil company, no differently than you can regulate the same wall street crowd that gives to your party in a way that keeps their prices high and advantages entrenched. Surely you've seen the commercial when the wine bottles crash while the company employee figures how much higher the price of the wine is going to go with a smile on his face.

3-I think we should all be civil to those with whom we disagree, whether in mundane political discourse or when at rallies or arguing for favored candidates. I wish Obama the man well, I also wish him defeat in the next election. I wish Bush well. I wish McCain and Kerry well. Those who hate these people, including Palin, show their own issues and no one else's. I was at a Northwestern University football game and they put a picture of Sarah Palin on the jumbotron, and the crowd booed, hissed, and I heard a loud "I hate her!" This was at a football game against Penn State.

It is high time that we have a civil and intelligent discourse regarding the issues of the day rather than calling Obama a usurping Muslim or Palin a blithering idiot. Both of these individuals have policies that should give us either haste or pause in supporting them, and I pray the best for them and their families. These are not the two brightest stars in the universe of potential and current Presidents, and I should like to see better choices in the future.

4-What in particular do you cite as proof that Palin was "pro oil" while Governor of Alaska? She may well have been, but when I compare the oil rich state of Alaska with the oil rice nation of Mexico, I notice the citizens of Alaska get far more of the revenue than the citizens of Mexico.

Terry,

I never said I wanted Sarah Palin to win the GOP nomination. I certainly don't want her for President. I didn't vote for McCain, I won't vote for Palin. I told you all, my days of voting for the "lesser evil" are done.

I agree with Aaron, however. Obama has proven himself to be a shitty POTUS. It is doubtful to me that Palin would do worse for the country. Things can always get worse, so you never know. However, she would likely hurt the GOP and I certainly don't want to see that.

I do find her "likable". I can understand why some people gravitate towards her. I also think she's been treated unfairly by the press. I don't think she's stupid. I think she's inexperienced and very ambitious.

I thought you were asking for examples of Obama's failures. I don't agree with you that Palin's record is as bad as Obama's record.

I did criticize Bush. However, by the time we became acquainted, Bush was already a lame duck President and his political career was nearing its end. He didn't have control of both chambers of Congress the way Obama does either.

"inexperienced and very ambitious"--Stephanie

I think that is the best description of her yet, Steph.

Although I believe we both voted for Baldwin, Obama and the Democratic Congress are really making me more amenable toward voting for the Republican next go around, unless the Repubs run another McCain, and if they do, they are idiots.

They run another McCain, they'll deserve to lose.

Which of the Republican possibles would you be willing to vote for (besides Ron Paul)?

Say what you like, for whatever reasons you conjer up, but I still say Palin would have made a better President than McCain, Obama and Hillary all rolled into one with only their best qualities retained.

I voted for Sarah but I had to vote for McCain to do it.

Oh, Mike.....that's a really tough question.

There are people I'm watching. Jim DeMint is one. I could see myself voting for DeMint, maybe.