Terrorism ties un-mosqued.

So now it transpires that a key money- man behind the proposed Ground Zero mosque is a one-time supporter of a group shut down by the feds because it was a front for Hamas.

No wonder the mosque's principal imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, refuses to discuss the project's finances.

Or, for that matter, refuses to speak harshly of Hamas -- an Iranian cat's-paw that's long been one of the deadliest Islamist terrorist organizations operating in the Mideast.

It was reported last night that Hisham Elzanaty -- an Egyptian-born businessman from Long Island -- provided a big chunk of the $4.8 million needed to buy the building that will be demolished to make way for the mosque.

Among other things, Elzanaty runs a Bronx-based medicial supply company that had to refund more than $300,000 in Medicaid payments in 2004-2005.

In 1999, he donated thousands to the Holy Land Foundation, later shuttered by the feds because of its Hamas ties.

All of this is, as they say, enough to give one pause.

Stephanie wrote:Hamas is the elected government of Gaza.

SheikBen wrote:Hi Keli,

I don't see the analogy with Kim Jong-Il, because he keeps getting "reelected" but not by any free process. Both the Nazis and Hamas were democratically elected--both the Germans in 1932 and the Palestinians freely chose their leaders. Now I do not think that Hamas is nearly as evil as the Nazis, but they do wish the elimination of the nation of Israel (although perhaps not of the Jews). These are not the boy scouts or any group with whom one can reasonably expect a lasting peace. I should like to be wrong.

Keli wrote:

SheikBen wrote:Hi Keli,

I don't see the analogy with Kim Jong-Il, because he keeps getting "reelected" but not by any free process. Both the Nazis and Hamas were democratically elected--both the Germans in 1932 and the Palestinians freely chose their leaders. Now I do not think that Hamas is nearly as evil as the Nazis, but they do wish the elimination of the nation of Israel (although perhaps not of the Jews). These are not the boy scouts or any group with whom one can reasonably expect a lasting peace. I should like to be wrong.

No terrorist nation is legitimate--duly democratically elected or not.

Keli wrote:No terrorist nation is legitimate--duly democratically elected or not.

ziggy wrote:

Keli wrote:No terrorist nation is legitimate--duly democratically elected or not.

Then the U.S. has not been "legitimate" for most of its history. First it terrorized against Native Americans, then against dozens of nations around the world for the past 100 plus years or so.

Stephanie wrote:Hamas is the elected government of Gaza.

ziggy wrote:

Keli wrote:No terrorist nation is legitimate--duly democratically elected or not.

Then the U.S. has not been "legitimate" for most of its history. First it terrorized against Native Americans, then against dozens of nations around the world for the past 100 plus years or so.

SheikBen wrote:Consider, Keli, that Paul taught obedience to rulers, while living in the pagan and murderous Roman Empire.

Hamas is a cursed nation because it curses God and Israel.

Keli wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Keli wrote:No terrorist nation is legitimate--duly democratically elected or not.

Then the U.S. has not been "legitimate" for most of its history. First it terrorized against Native Americans, then against dozens of nations around the world for the past 100 plus years or so.

Ziggy, as a citizen of a terrorist state, have you considered turning yourself in to the World Court?

Aaron wrote:

ziggy wrote:

Keli wrote:No terrorist nation is legitimate--duly democratically elected or not.

Then the U.S. has not been "legitimate" for most of its history. First it terrorized against Native Americans, then against dozens of nations around the world for the past 100 plus years or so.

The United States was not a sovereign nation until 1782 and what you deem “terrorizing” went both ways.

You’re pretty good at revisionist history.

Keli wrote:

SheikBen wrote:Consider, Keli, that Paul taught obedience to rulers, while living in the pagan and murderous Roman Empire.

Government is ordained of God--but that does not mean that God approves of every government.

IMHO, any definition of a legitimate government includes one whose God is the LORD and provides for "a quiet and peaceable life."

SheikBen wrote:Keli, By your standards of legitimacy (and indeed, blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord), there may be one or two legitimate governments on earth.

Look what they've are. Look who they've become.