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Post by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:55 am

Bush institutes rule protecting workers' "right of conscience"
Washington Post ^ | 12-18-08 | Rob Stein


The Bush administration issued a sweeping regulation Thursday that protects a broad range of health care workers — from doctors to janitors — who refuse to participate in providing services they believe violate their personal, moral or religious beliefs.

The controversial rule empowers federal health officials to cut off funding for any state or local government, hospital, clinic, health plan, doctor's office or other entity if it does not accommodate employees who exercise their "right of conscience." It would apply to more than 584,000 health care facilities.

"Doctors and other health care providers should not be forced to choose between good professional standing and violating their conscience," Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt said in a statement.

The regulation was sought by conservative groups, abortion opponents and others as necessary to safeguard workers from being fired, disciplined or penalized in other ways.

Women's health advocates, family planning proponents, abortion rights activists, members of Congress and others condemned the regulation, saying it would create major obstacles to a variety of health services, including abortion, family planning, end-of-life care and possibly a wide range of scientific research.

The 127-page rule is the latest in a flurry of federal regulations the administration is implementing before President George W. Bush's term ends.

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AMEN! So, medical personnel and pharmacists should not have to participate in infanticide by abortion!
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Post by sodbuster Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:43 am

Well AA I guess you missed the discussion we had on this a couple weeks ago.

But why do you suppose Bush is issuing this rule now instead of 8 years ago?

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Post by SamCogar Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:49 am

The controversial rule empowers federal health officials to cut off funding for any state or local government, hospital, clinic, health plan, doctor's office or other entity if it does not accommodate employees who exercise their "right of conscience." It would apply to more than 584,000 health care facilities.

OH MY GAWD, ...... do you realize how much that is going to increase health care costs?

This means that all such entities MUST HAVE a "backup" professional on the job at all times .......for every employee that wishes to exercise their "right of conscience".

lol! lol!



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Post by Keli Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:48 pm

SamCogar wrote:
The controversial rule empowers federal health officials to cut off funding for any state or local government, hospital, clinic, health plan, doctor's office or other entity if it does not accommodate employees who exercise their "right of conscience." It would apply to more than 584,000 health care facilities.

OH MY GAWD, ...... do you realize how much that is going to increase health care costs?

This means that all such entities MUST HAVE a "backup" professional on the job at all times .......for every employee that wishes to exercise their "right of conscience".

lol! lol!


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Sam,
If a Muslim works in a grocery store as a shelf stocker and, when there is a large number of people wanting to checkout, the shelf stockers are expected to come forward and bag groceries, do you think that he or she should be forced to handle and bag pork or alcohol.


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Post by sodbuster Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:55 pm

Well Keli why do you think Bush waited till his term was over to do this instead of 8 years ago?

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Post by Keli Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:10 pm

sodbuster wrote:Well Keli why do you think Bush waited till his term was over to do this instead of 8 years ago?

Because people like you would have protested it.
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Post by Keli Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:22 pm

Let's say that a certain Quaker is a vegan,pacifist and an advocate of non-violence. He works at Walmart as a department manager. Should Walmart expect him to work selling guns and ammo--which he believes are used for evil purposes?
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Post by Aaron Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:24 pm

Keli wrote:
sodbuster wrote:Well Keli why do you think Bush waited till his term was over to do this instead of 8 years ago?

Because people like you would have protested it.

Had he done it 8 years ago, he might have had some credibility. Doing it now makes him look like a coward.
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Post by sodbuster Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:08 pm

Well my theory is he knew it would be overturned and make him look stupid/incompetent to informed voters when the courts overturned it.

But by doing it now he figures Obama will overturn it and infuriate the rightwing base of the republican party.

In other words, just politics.

Using and deceiving people who are sincerely opposed to various medical treatments or procedures for religious reasons.

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Post by SamCogar Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:13 pm

Keli wrote:
Sam,
If a Muslim works in a grocery store as a shelf stocker and, when there is a large number of people wanting to checkout, the shelf stockers are expected to come forward and bag groceries, do you think that he or she should be forced to handle and bag pork or alcohol.

Well duh, ..... didn't they handle them when they were "stocked on the shelves"?

If they don't want to work, ....... fire them.

Only at 84 Lumber does it seem everyone is a Manager or Manager Trainee.


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Post by SamCogar Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:17 pm

Sherm, all those Muslims ........ are registered Democrat, ....... right.


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Post by Keli Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:20 pm

LONDON (AFP) — A Bosnian Muslim waitress has demanded compensation from the London bar where she worked over a red dress she was asked to wear, British media reported Thursday.

Fata Lemes, 33, told an employment tribunal that she felt forced to wear the sleeveless dress with a low neckline and an open back, thought the Rocket bar was run like a "sex club" and filed for 20,000 pounds in compensation......

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Should she have to wear the dress?
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Post by SamCogar Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:45 pm

Should police have to wear uniforms or carry badges?

How about WalMart greeters?

And High School band members, cheerleaders or the football players?

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