How about Wilson...

Sam, dont be silly.. I'm not directly blaming Bush, Hell, he didnt have a clue as to what was going down..

Ohio Co... your right he did save the UAW. GM could have thrown the contract out and hired all new people... at 1/2 the wages and no benefits, which is the situation now with new hires,
I hope you have a secure and prosperous retirement also, Ohio.
These days one never knows......

Calling someone a fucking asshole and a liar because they got the best of you makes you a prick. Pot, meet kettle.\

Sam didn't get the best of me. He posted an off-topic lie in an attempt to discredit my arguments. Slander, plain and simple.

Also, we are not under rules of order here. They are in Congress.

Can't you even make a decent analogy, Aaron?

TerryRC wrote:Can't you even make a decent analogy, Aaron?

I can. You hero Obama is a bigger liar than ol' Tom Peppers and they kicked him out of hell for lying. Wilson just called a spade a spade.

Good enough for you.

"...called a spade a spade."

I see what you did there... no racism in Obama critics?

Obama is not my hero. You can't show where I have praised a SINGLE action of his.

I don't care that Wilson called him a liar. He just did it in an very inappropriate manner.

Anyway, I'm going golfing.

I'll come back later to be the sand in the baby oil of this right-wing orgy.

TerryRC wrote:Anyway, I'm going golfing.

I'll come back later to be the sand in the baby oil of this right-wing orgy.

TerryRC wrote:"...called a spade a spade."

I see what you did there... no racism in Obama critics?

Obama is not my hero. You can't show where I have praised a SINGLE action of his.

I don't care that Wilson called him a liar. He just did it in an very inappropriate manner.

Just call as I see them.

TerryRC wrote:"...called a spade a spade."

I see what you did there... no racism in Obama critics?

You are the one that made the racist connection. I just pointed out that wilson called a liar, aliar.

TerryRC wrote:Obama is not my hero. You can't show where I have praised a SINGLE action of his.

I don't care that Wilson called him a liar. He just did it in an very inappropriate manner.

And I don't disagree that Wilson chose a poor forum to call Obama a Liar. The only thing however Wilson did that I really disagree with was apologize to Comrade Obama.

TerryRC wrote:Calling someone a fucking asshole and a liar because they got the best of you makes you a prick. Pot, meet kettle.\

Sam didn't get the best of me. He posted an off-topic lie in an attempt to discredit my arguments. Slander, plain and simple.

Also, we are not under rules of order here. They are in Congress.

Can't you even make a decent analogy, Aaron?

Why I do believe I did as you're lack of respect mirrored Wilson's lack of respect Kettle.

And yes, Sam, as he always does, got the best of you.

Why I do believe I did as you're lack of respect mirrored Wilson's lack of respect Kettle.

I have no respect for liars

And yes, Sam, as he always does, got the best of you.

How? By telling an unsubstantiated lie? He didn't even address my argument.

You must lose so often you don't know what winning even looks like.

Just call as I see them.

You don't see anything you don't want to see.

You are the one that made the racist connection. I just pointed out that wilson called a liar, aliar.

You called our president a spade! Also, NOBODY HAS SEEN THE PROPOSAL. Do we know that ANYBODY has actually lied?

TerryRC wrote:Why I do believe I did as you're lack of respect mirrored Wilson's lack of respect Kettle.

I have no respect for liars

And yes, Sam, as he always does, got the best of you.

How? By telling an unsubstantiated lie? He didn't even address my argument.

You must lose so often you don't know what winning even looks like.

I don't lose. When I'm wrong, I admit it, learn from it and grow. The way I see it, I win every time.

There are times you may be correct in a discussion but as Sam owns you and can drag you anywhere he so desires, you can never win, even when you're right.

Perhaps if you would get off your high horse and be willing to look at both sides, you might "win" sometimes as well.

TerryRC wrote:(Willy) "You are the one that made the racist connection. I just pointed out that wilson called a liar, aliar. "

You called our president a spade! Also, NOBODY HAS SEEN THE PROPOSAL. Do we know that ANYBODY has actually lied?

Only the younger generation, primarily those from high population urban areas, associate a deck of cards "spade" with a black person.

Older native West Virginians seldom if ever associate a deck of cards "spade" with a black person because the black population in WV has always been extremely low and thus racial conflicts, dislikes and hatreds have never materialized like it has in high black population areas.

Ignorance can often times be fixed ...... for those who are willing to learn, to wit:

Call a spade a spade

Meaning - To speak plainly - to describe something as it really is.

Origin - It might be thought that this derives from the derogatory use of the slang term 'spade', meaning Negro - an American term originating in the 20th century. That view of it as derogatory might also be thought to be supported by this piece from John Trapp's Mellificium theologicum, or the marrow of many good authors, 1647:

"Gods people shall not spare to call a spade a spade, a niggard a niggard."

Trapp's use of 'niggard' is difficult to interpret. The word had several meanings in the 17th century. It could be used to mean 'miser', which is the more common usage today, or as a general term of abuse - 'lout', 'barbarian' etc. The word was also used as the name of firebricks in grates.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/call-a-spade-a-spade.html

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Only the younger generation, primarily those from high population urban areas, associate a deck of cards "spade" with a black person.

Older native West Virginians seldom if ever associate a deck of cards "spade" with a black person because the black population in WV has always been extremely low and thus racial conflicts, dislikes and hatreds have never materialized like it has in high black population areas.

Ignorance can often times be fixed ...... for those who are willing to learn, to wit:

Right. That phrase was never used in movies from the sixties and seventies. It is only this "younger generation".

It was never used in comedies like Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles that came out, what, 30 years ago?

Why did you go to a British website for American slang?

You don't even know what you are talking about, Sammy.

While I know a spade can be a racial slur for a black person, I have always understood the term 'call a spade a spade' to mean calling someone exactly what they are.

Why is it that criticizing Obama is automatically racist?

TerryRC wrote:

Right. That phrase was never used in movies from the sixties and seventies. It is only this "younger generation".

It was never used in comedies like Mel Brooks' Blazing Saddles that came out, what, 30 years ago?

Why did you go to a British website for American slang?

You don't even know what you are talking about, Sammy.

Such an ignorant idiot.

Willy and myself are not of the "younger generation", it is you DA.

Willy and I didn't spend all our time in theaters watching silly assed movies and learning more from them than from our school books and teachers.

We learned to think for ourselves, we never learned to depend on others to do our thinking for us. But that is something you will never understand no matter how long you live. Your nurturing never prepared you to do that ...... and one can not "turn back the clock" and re-program their subconscious mind to function differently.


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Such an ignorant idiot.

I'm in good company with you, then sammy.

We learned to think for ourselves, we never learned to depend on others to do our thinking for us. But that is something you will never understand no matter how long you live.

Whatever, sammy. You know nothing about me or my abilities, yet you insult and belittle me at every turn, usually without even bothering to address the argument. You little fan club here will probably cheer you for it.

How good for you.

I have taught myself how to build my house. Everything from felling trees to laying stone and pouring footers to framing to stucco work. I'm not in the process of building a forge.

I work hard and solve my own problems. I try not trust anybody's word on a subject without checking it out for myself. I get lazy about that, sometimes, but not too often.

Ah, who cares. Your insults mean next to nothing because you mean next to nothing.

I still can't help but think you wouldn't say the same things to my face, making you a cowardly knave.

TerryRC wrote:
I still can't help but think you wouldn't say the same things to my face, making you a cowardly knave.

A great response Terry. Right up to that last sentance.

Why stoop to the 'I can beat you up mentality' as a form of debate or argument?

A great response Terry. Right up to that last sentance.

The last "sentance" is as true as the rest of the things in that post. Why should I hide it?

Sam calls me names most foul. Do you see him walking up to someone in person and saying the same?

I don't.

TerryRC wrote:A great response Terry. Right up to that last sentance.

The last "sentance" is as true as the rest of the things in that post. Why should I hide it?

Sam calls me names most foul. Do you see him walking up to someone in person and saying the same?

I don't.

Sam Cogar of Burnsville, WV posted under that name on the old Gazette forum, currently post under that name on the comment section of the Gazette and on other news sites in and around Charleston that I know of.

And I wouldn't be surprised if you don't find his name on similar sites in Morgantown, Fairmont and other areas. He's not hiding behind some indiscreet moniker or trying to be someone he's not.

If you ask, he'll tell you where he lives and how you can find him. Not only do I think he would say everything to your face he puts in print, I think he'd smile while doing it.

That I can respect. Threatening someone else because you don't like what they say, I can't.

That I can respect. Threatening someone else because you don't like what they say, I can't.

Bullshit. It wasn't a threat and it had to do to outright personal attacks, not a simple difference of opinion.

I didn't threaten him. I stated a simple fact that you know is likely to be true - Sam wouldn't walk up to me OR you and say those things to my face or yours.

True whether you want to admit it or not.

It doesn't really matter. I have come to the point where I realize that, for whatever reason - misplaced anger, helplessness, ignorance... this list is not comprehensive, the words and opinions of many are so much empty wind and I would be a fool to let such bother me.

TerryRC wrote:Bullshit. It wasn't a threat and it had to do to outright personal attacks, not a simple difference of opinion.

You are right about that, it has never been about a simple difference of opinions.

It has always been about your deviousness, dishonesty and untruthfulness coupled with your high n' mighty superior intellect feeling attitude that forces you to "beat around the bush" in denial of your utter ignorance of most subject matters.

TerryRC wrote:I didn't threaten him. I stated a simple fact that you know is likely to be true - Sam wouldn't walk up to me OR you and say those things to my face or yours.

True whether you want to admit it or not.

Ever since Sam said to himself, about 30 years ago, .... "Self, they might whup your ass but they can't eat it", ...... Sam has never been afraid to tell anyone "Where the bear shits in the buckwheat".

And Sam has never "played fair" when anyone decided to take physical offense to what Sam said. Sam's a great "anticipator" and reacts accordingly because Sam doesn't like the thought of being thumpted upon.

TerryRC wrote:It doesn't really matter. I have come to the point where I realize that, for whatever reason - misplaced anger, helplessness, ignorance... this list is not comprehensive, the words and opinions of many are so much empty wind and I would be a fool to let such bother me.

Well, we all know that any "truths" coming from ..... YOUR perceived inferiors ...... bothers the hell out of you, ..... so there is not much else to say.

Lefty liberal Marxists Socialists really, really hate any and all deserving "outright personal attacks" lauded upon them by others because they are avid believers in all the PC nonsense and think they can say or do anything with immunity because of said.

Well, that PC nonsense will sometimes get you hurt or killed by those who use PC'ism for their advantage and/or those who get hurt or killed because they believe PC'ism will protect them. Both of which have been proven to be a fact over the past 10 or so years, the latest example occurring at Ft. Hood, Texas.

I now assume all you lefty liberal Marxists Socialists will now be demanding a new Law to protect you from Muslim Terrorists who are US citizens.



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It has always been about your deviousness, dishonesty and untruthfulness coupled with your high n' mighty superior intellect feeling attitude that forces you to "beat around the bush" in denial of your utter ignorance of most subject matters.

Says you, Sammy.

I now assume all you lefty liberal Marxists Socialists will now be demanding a new Law to protect you from Muslim Terrorists who are US citizens.

Now that is funny... and rabid. I guess anyone to the left of Sam is a stinkin' commie.

Sam. You are really something.

Your head hurts, ...... really hurts.

And the sad part about it, ........ you don't even realize it.

Your head hurts, ...... really hurts.

And the sad part about it, ........ you don't even realize it.

Sammy, Master of Tripe.