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I didn't get your questions Andrea or your answers?

Andrea Cristobal wrote: I am not a hypocrite, I practice what I preach. Catholics don't typically tithe, but I do. I also give to Catholic Charities and the Saint Vincent DePaul Society.

Well do tell now.

Then maybe the "real" Andrea Cristobal should stand up and make her presence know.

The big question is, ........

will it be this Andrea Cristobal, to wit:

Andrea Cristobal wrote: Now I have been called into work due to the blizzard and I will go and maybe stay a couple of days without sleep to care for the clients. See Sam I understand fully that when I chose this profession I chose to make sacrifices and I willingly fulfill my obligations. Do you?

Or this Andrea Cristobal, to wit:

Andrea Cristobal wrote: I was working. Several shifts as a matter of fact. Had an opportunity for the big pay day before Christmas and took advantage of it. I love those double time and a half paying shifts. That's one thing about living in MA. I can see the cart full of Christmas presents already.

Andrea, my friend, I have a semi-photographic memory or EXCELLENT recall, whichever ya wanna call it, ....... so you really shouldn't be "telling" two (2) different versions of "the same story" ........ because it is highly likely that you will have to "un-fib" one or both of them later on ..... or tell another fib to CYA.

Cheers, Sam

SamCogar wrote:

Andrea Cristobal wrote: I am not a hypocrite, I practice what I preach. Catholics don't typically tithe, but I do. I also give to Catholic Charities and the Saint Vincent DePaul Society.

Well do tell now.

Then maybe the "real" Andrea Cristobal should stand up and make her presence know.

The big question is, ........

will it be this Andrea Cristobal, to wit:

Andrea Cristobal wrote: Now I have been called into work due to the blizzard and I will go and maybe stay a couple of days without sleep to care for the clients. See Sam I understand fully that when I chose this profession I chose to make sacrifices and I willingly fulfill my obligations. Do you?

Or this Andrea Cristobal, to wit:

Andrea Cristobal wrote: I was working. Several shifts as a matter of fact. Had an opportunity for the big pay day before Christmas and took advantage of it. I love those double time and a half paying shifts. That's one thing about living in MA. I can see the cart full of Christmas presents already.

Andrea, my friend, I have a semi-photographic memory or EXCELLENT recall, whichever ya wanna call it, ....... so you really shouldn't be "telling" two (2) different versions of "the same story" ........ because it is highly likely that you will have to "un-fib" one or both of them later on ..... or tell another fib to CYA.

Cheers, Sam

Ah Sam photographic memories, do not geniuses make. All it means is that you have a good memory. What exactly do these two postings have to do with "fibs"? I can fulfill my obligations and enjoy doing the work at the same time. One does not nullify the other. Who are you crying for? Your own lack of logic? I am home at present. Someone else came in so now I prepare for the next few days.

Andrea Cristobal wrote: What exactly do these two postings have to do with "fibs"? I can fulfill my obligations and enjoy doing the work at the same time. One does not nullify the other.

Denial ..... is not a river in Egypt.

Why is it acceptable for Andrea to make that big pay day on the misfortunes of others, but not alright for the people creating both the life-saving treatments and jobs your countrymen need to live comfortable lives?

Andrea has shown her true colors when confronted multiple times about living on 2% profits herself. She doesn't have the guts to answer the question. I don't know how the refer to it in the neck of the woods you and her come from Stephanie but round here, we call that yeller.

Aaron wrote:Andrea has shown her true colors when confronted multiple times about living on 2% profits herself. She doesn't have the guts to answer the question. I don't know how the refer to it in the neck of the woods you and her come from Stephanie but round here, we call that yeller.

First of all I do love to work. Human Services is one of the biggest "industries" in Massachusetts and in the region of the state I live in it is a large employer. There is a great deal of work. There are not however always enough help to do the work. Frankly like many other jobs people don't look on this type of work for a career. But the work has to be done, clients can't be left without supervision and it is around the clock. Is that taking advantage of the misfortune of others? I think it is supplying a needed service. It is not easy work either. I just had to have tetanus and I am still undergoing a series of hepatis shots as well as an HIV test after being seriously bitten by a client. It is not desirable work for many.

Let's see Aaron. Do I get to figure my profits after my overhead as businesses do? That would enclude all of my expenses. My house, vehicle and living expenses? Do I get to write off my donations to charity like businesses do? Under that principle depending if I need car repairs, house repairs or some other unexpected development is what decides my 'profits'. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. And as already stated my 2% is far less than most big businesses 2% and it is not the same thing, far from it. That is an invalid comparison.

Is that taking advantage of the misfortune of others?

I don't think anybody is saying that. Service to others is the most noble of all professions and nobody will blame you for making a profit. It is a special person who can do the work.

The average physician spends eight to twelve years and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why should he not seek to profit or recoup his investment? Even big pharma spends billions on research and years on product testing. Why should investors not get a fair return?

Andrea Cristobal wrote: Do I get to figure my profits after my overhead as businesses do? That would enclude all of my expenses. My house, vehicle and living expenses? Do I get to write off my donations to charity like businesses do? Under that principle depending if I need car repairs, house repairs or some other unexpected development is what decides my 'profits'.

Absolutely you can.

Go to the nearest ACORN Office and ask them how to do it.

Or get yourself a copy of the Tax Codes and figure out how to do it for yourself.

ohio county wrote:

Is that taking advantage of the misfortune of others?

I don't think anybody is saying that. Service to others is the most noble of all professions and nobody will blame you for making a profit. It is a special person who can do the work.

The average physician spends eight to twelve years and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why should he not seek to profit or recoup his investment? Even big pharma spends billions on research and years on product testing. Why should investors not get a fair return?

Thank you for the compliment OC. I do think there should be a fair return. But I think sometimes the profits are far beyond that to the detriment of the people they serve and supply a service to. I think then physicians, researchers, pharmaceutical companies etc. should be mindful that they chose to supply a service and an added responsibility to place people before profit. That is how I see it.

Andrea Cristobal wrote: But I think sometimes the profits are far beyond that to the detriment of the people they serve and supply a service to.

Am I to assume that you also include auto mechanics, plumbers, Lawyers, Human Services employees, appliance repairmen, Union Electricians, etc., that also supply a service to the unfortunates? Probably

I think then physicians, researchers, pharmaceutical companies etc. should be mindful that they chose to supply a service and an added responsibility to place people before profit. That is how I see it.

HA, me thinks you just added that "little bit" of Socialism to justify your belief in it.



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It most certainly is a fair comparison Andrea, 2% is and always will be 2% and once again you ducked the question. I'm not the least bit suprised.

No I didn't duck the question and no it isn't a fair comparison. I said that there are times when I do have more than 2% and times when I don't.

Why is it not a fair comparison?

Why do you believe it is a fair comparison? Is my little two percent the same as a big corporation's two percent? What is a good level to live on or to profit before it becomes greed?

Andrea Cristobal wrote:Why do you believe it is a fair comparison? Is my little two percent the same as a big corporation's two percent?

Yes

Andrea Cristobal wrote:What is a good level to live on or to profit before it becomes greed?

What right do you have or the government have to decide that?

Government decides many things. That you have to have a license to drive, a permit for a gun, a registration for a boat or a car. They decide that children must be educated up until a certain age. They decide what are crimes and what are not. They decide who can marry and who can not. Different states have different laws regarding divorce. Laws regarding discrimination. Laws regarding pornography. Laws deciding where adult entertainment can be situated. In your opinion do they have the right to decide any of those things? Or is it only your money that you don't want them deciding what to do with?

At one time the government decided with whom, where and the exact nature of the physical sex a person could engage in ...... and many of those old Laws are still on the Books.

Do you think all of said should be reinstated and/or enforced by the government?


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Different states have different laws

States have rights the federal government does not have. Perhaps you need to pay a bit of attention to that detail.

Stephanie wrote:

Different states have different laws

States have rights the federal government does not have. Perhaps you need to pay a bit of attention to that detail.

But it all adds up to the presence of government in our lives deciding what we can and can not do as citizens. Whether on the state or federal level decisions are made regarding the direction our society follows. The mores we live by and the rules we utilize to engage one another. We may not agree with some things. It is then our right to work to change what we disagree with. Do you engage in political activism to attempt to change how and when tax dollars are spent?

AC,

I think you all are getting to a fabulous philosophical point that I normally do not have the time to consider.

Shouldn't the government that is MOST accountable to you (the state or local government) have the MOST power (relatively) over you, while the government with the LEAST accountability have the LEAST impact on your daily life?

Michael,

At differing times do not the different levels of government play a greater or lesser role in your life?

When I am a child the local government (with state and federal supervision) tells me where and when to go to school, what bus to ride.

As a worker I am affected by paying income taxes to both state and federal entities. I am affected on the workplace by federal safety laws (OSHA).

As an elderly person my benefits come primarily from the federal government unless I have pensions, etc.

So in the different phases of my life different which entity should I consider to be the most important? The one I live in, or the one that has the most affect on my wellbeing at that time?

Andrea Cristobal wrote:Michael,

At differing times do not the different levels of government play a greater or lesser role in your life?

When I am a child the local government (with state and federal supervision) tells me where and when to go to school, what bus to ride.

As a worker I am affected by paying income taxes to both state and federal entities. I am affected on the workplace by federal safety laws (OSHA).

As an elderly person my benefits come primarily from the federal government unless I have pensions, etc.

So in the different phases of my life different which entity should I consider to be the most important? The one I live in, or the one that has the most affect on my wellbeing at that time?

When is Andrea responsible for Andrea and Stephanie responsible for Stephanie? Do you want the government telling you where and how your child is educated? Is that the society you want to live in?

Am I involved in political activism? HA! I seem to recall getting my toes wet at around age 16 when I began protesting registration for the draft outside my local post office. I haven't stopped. My Congresswoman knows my name and recognized me when we encounter each other. I've lived in her district for 3 years, 3 months, and 24 days.

I ran for and held elected office. I have been appointed to omnibus committees. I helped found a PAC. Nah, I'm not politically active. I just sit here and gripe. How about you?

We are all responsible for ourselves but that doesn't mean government should never intervene to better the lives of its citizens.

I am involved in politics as well. Not as actively as you but I work political campaigns, etc. I am also working at having the new Rhode Island Moderate Party migrate to MA. That is very exciting.