Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
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Stephanie
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Aaron
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Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
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Even though he was a republican, Sen Byrd always treated him as a friend with dignity and respect.
I am sure Sen Byrd has heartfelt sympathy for him and his family.
Even though he was a republican, Sen Byrd always treated him as a friend with dignity and respect.
I am sure Sen Byrd has heartfelt sympathy for him and his family.
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
I'm sure he does Sherm. Considering there is debate about which of the two is truely the Prince of Pork.
Personally, I think it's Stevens, who gets a return of invesment of almost $14K on tax dollars spent. Byrd and WV only get slightly less then $9K.
Personally, I think it's Stevens, who gets a return of invesment of almost $14K on tax dollars spent. Byrd and WV only get slightly less then $9K.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
Let him rot in a federal penitentiary.
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
Well Jim those are pretty strong words...
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
Can you say the same about William Jefferson?
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
Is he the one with the cash in his fridge?
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Yes, and a recent return to the most ethical Congress.
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I'm with Jimmy.......let Stevens rot in prison.
Well, can you say the same about Jefferson?
Well, can you say the same about Jefferson?
Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
I never said it about either one.
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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shermangeneral wrote:I never said it about either one.
People who take an oath to serve and uphold the law should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the citizenry, not a lower one. When they commit crimes in direct conflict to the public good for personal gain they should receive the harshest punishment under the law.
I feel that way about Jefferson and Stevens. I'd like to know why you don't think they should rot in prison.
Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
One has been complicent with Byrd in wasting trillions of tax payer dollars since the late 60's. There are as many things in Alaska that bears his name as there are in WV that bear Byrd's.
The others a democrat.
The others a democrat.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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Well Steph if you are asking me I'm from the old school.
Give them a fair trial and Then hang 'em....
Give them a fair trial and Then hang 'em....
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Stephanie wrote:People who take an oath to serve and uphold the law should be held to a higher standard than the rest of the citizenry, not a lower one.
"NO", ...... they should be held accountable to the Oath that they swore to uphold.
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SamCogar- Number of posts : 6238
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
Both men have demonstrated amply that their "service" was strictly selfish and self-serving. I don't have any sympathy for either man and am anxious to see them brought to justice.
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Well I must disagree.
Sen Byrd has not enriched himself and has relatively little in the way of worldly goods far as I know.
He could be a wealthy man and sit on all these corporate boards, etc.
But he has not.
Sen Byrd has not enriched himself and has relatively little in the way of worldly goods far as I know.
He could be a wealthy man and sit on all these corporate boards, etc.
But he has not.
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
What's he got to do with this? Nobody criticized him. You think he isn't a wealthy man?
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
He lives quite a frugal lifestyle, relatively speaking oc.
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Today, Members of the United States Congress enjoy a vast web of perquisites that benefit them personally as well as professionally, including:
*Comfortable salaries that are often determined through legislative sleight-of-hand. Contrary to the arguments of many Washington "insiders," the cost of living has rarely eroded the historical value of lawmakers' pay, which on a constant-dollar basis is hovering near the postwar high.
*Pension benefits that are two to three times more generous than those offered in the private sector for similarly-salaried executives. Taxpayers directly cover at least 80 percent of this costly plan. Congressional pensions are also inflation-protected, a feature that fewer than 1 in 10 private plans offer.
*Health and life insurance, approximately 3/4 and 1/3 of whose costs, respectively, are subsidized by taxpayers.
Wheeled perks, including limousines for senior Members, prized parking spaces on Capitol Hill, and choice spots at Washington's two major airports.
*Travel to far-flung destinations as well as to home states and districts. Despite recent attempts to toughen gift and travel rules, "junkets" are still readily available prerogatives for many Members.
*A wide range of smaller perks that have defied reform efforts, from cut-rate health clubs to fine furnishings.
But the very nature of public office itself demands a more comprehensive definition of a "perk" than that normally applied to corporate America. Members of Congress can also wield official powers that allow them to continue to enjoy the personal benefits outlined above, such as:
*The franking privilege, which gives lawmakers millions in tax dollars to create a favorable public image. Experts across the political spectrum have labeled the frank as an unfair electioneering tool. In past election cycles, Congressional incumbents have spent as much on franking alone as challengers have spent on their entire campaigns.
*An office staff that performs "constituent services" and doles out pork-barrel spending, providing more opportunities for "favors" that can be returned only at election time.
*Exemptions and immunities from tax, pension, and other laws that burden private citizens -- all crafted by lawmakers themselves.
And all this for the low, low price of $165,000 per year.
http://www.ntu.org/main/press.php?PressID=343
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Yes the opportunity is there for someone who wants to abuse I suppose.
But Byrd gets no pension.
Nor does he do junkets, etc like some do.
But Byrd gets no pension.
Nor does he do junkets, etc like some do.
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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Well, it is true he'll get no pension but only because he fully intends to die before he retires.
He's never taken a trip abroad on the public? I'll look into that.
He got his law degree on the public's dollar.
He's never taken a trip abroad on the public? I'll look into that.
He got his law degree on the public's dollar.
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Re: Senator Byrd's friend in a jam
Byrd has authored or is responsible for 7 books among other outside activities. He's been in the Senate for 50 years. He's not hurting for money.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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And actually, at the age of 90, he is still eligible to receive partial SS benefits and at least a portion of his pension even though he is still employed.
Aaron- Number of posts : 9841
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well dont you think that is groping or scraping the bottom to say that?
shermangeneral- Number of posts : 1347
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I still don't undestand why you brought him up.
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Well because he and Ted Stevens are friends I guess.
They are kinda like counterparts as I understand.
They are kinda like counterparts as I understand.
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