Re: Symbols, symbolism, and proof

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:50 pm

Stephanie wrote:You're not using a religious symbol or icon. You're bastardizing something those people consider sacred.

How so?

Stephanie wrote:You have no respect and lack common courtesy.

Well, I have a tiny bit of respect for all superstitions; which is more than some have for superstitions not their own. I don't see how I have shown any less respect than they.

Stephanie wrote:That said, just like the government can't make you a better person, neither can I. You are who and what you are.

Yes, I know.
It is quite the burden to bear (notice how I refrained from saying, "cross to bear"?); being a Hanna-Barbara addict, that is.

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:57 pm

Aaron wrote:The problem I have with it Stephanie is that it violates rules he posted when he was crying over being called William.

Sorry, Aaron, I don't recall "crying" over anything on this board (not counting the occasional tear that has come to my eyes when laughing at some of the supposed "logic" posted around these parts).

Perhaps you can make me shed a few more tears by explaining to me exactly how my signature is offensive.

by **Stephanie** Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:06 pm

It is not possible you are so dense that anyone has to actually explain to you how you're bastardizing a Christian symbol.

Perhaps I need to make myself more clear in my posts to you, however. You show no common courtesy or respect for our Christian forum members.

Like I said before, I can't make you a better person. That's all on you.

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:11 pm

Stephanie wrote:It is not possible you are so dense that anyone has to actually explain to you how you're bastardizing a Christian symbol.

Which symbol?

The circle?

The fish?

The eyepatch?

The percent sign?

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:11 pm

bmd wrote:
Stephanie wrote:It is not possible you are so dense that anyone has to actually explain to you how you're bastardizing a Christian symbol.

Which symbol?

The circle?

The fish?

The eyepatch?

The percent sign?

Oh, yeah, and how am I "bastardizing" it/them?

by Aaron Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:12 pm

bmd wrote:
Armon Ayers wrote:bmd,
Do you believe that Mohammad was also 97% chimp?

He, and all humans, are equally related to chimps. Got some data to refute that?

So you acknowledge that Jesus Christ was a man who walked this earth!!!

The bowing of the head will come in time...

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:13 pm

bmd wrote:
bmd wrote:
Stephanie wrote:It is not possible you are so dense that anyone has to actually explain to you how you're bastardizing a Christian symbol.

Which symbol?

The circle?

The fish?

The eyepatch?

The percent sign?

Oh, yeah, and how am I "bastardizing" it/them?

OR, do you object to there being a "grandeur in this view of life..."???????????????

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:27 pm

Aaron wrote:
bmd wrote:
Armon Ayers wrote:bmd,
Do you believe that Mohammad was also 97% chimp?

He, and all humans, are equally related to chimps. Got some data to refute that?

So you acknowledge that Jesus Christ was a man who walked this earth!!!

I don't doubt that there was a man named Jesus, many, many moons ago. But, for all I know, he was the son of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. At one time there was a website offering quite a bit of cash to anyone who could prove that he wasn't. For the moment, I will take at face value that he was human (as that is the most parsimonious hypothesis). If so, then he was 96+% Pan.

Aaron wrote:The bowing of the head will come in time...

Neither my mom (who was a Deacon in her church), nor my grandmom (who could point right to the place in the sky she knew to be heaven), could accomplish that with me. If they couldn't do it, what makes you think you stand a cold beer's chance of lasting the night at a frat party?.

by Aaron Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:31 pm

bmd wrote:Neither my mom (who was a Deacon in her church), nor my grandmom (who could point right to the place in the sky she knew to be heaven), could accomplish that with me.

Explains your lack of respect, honor or common courtsey and why you're the hypocrite you are. Perhaps if your father had hung around, you might a better man then you are.

bmd wrote:If they couldn't do it, what makes you think you stand a cold beer's chance of lasting the night at a frat party?.

I'm sorry, you'll have to clarify what you mean.

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:49 pm

Aaron wrote:Perhaps if your father had hung around, you might a better man then you are.

Yeah, it still upsets me that he and my mom "abandoned" my brothers and I, by retiring to Oregon when we kids were all in our thirties. Just sold the old homestead in the Eastbay, loaded up the wagon, and hit the trail. Left us with little more than a forwarding address and all those Playboys they found under the mattress in my youngest brother's old room.

Aaron wrote:
bmd wrote:If they couldn't do it, what makes you think you stand a cold beer's chance of lasting the night at a frat party?.

I'm sorry, you'll have to clarify what you mean.

You've obviously never witnessed the fate of beer at frat parties.

by bmd Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:55 pm

bmd wrote:
Aaron wrote:Perhaps if your father had hung around, you might a better man then you are.

Yeah, it still upsets me that he and my mom "abandoned" my brothers and I, by retiring to Oregon when we kids were all in our thirties. Just sold the old homestead in the Eastbay, loaded up the wagon, and hit the trail. Left us with little more than a forwarding address and all those Playboys they found under the mattress in my youngest brother's old room.

Oops. I take that back. They did make me clean out the garage of all the old motorcycle parts I had been storing there for years (the same ones my wife has been trying to get me to part with for years now --- "But, dear. When I get it all back together it will be the sweeeeetest ride. Honest!!").

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:02 am

bmd wrote:Can anyone PROVE to me that Invisible Pink Unicorns, or The Flying Spaghetti Monster are any less real than ANY deity?

If you can, I will not only delete the images in my signature, I will also put ANY symbol there you deem appropriate.

STILL waiting...........................................................zzzzzz.....zzz......zz.......z........z..........z.....

by TerryRC Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:29 am

You're not using a religious symbol or icon. You're bastardizing something those people consider sacred. You have no respect and lack common courtesy.

And you called out Keli on the various islam-insulting pictures he has posted, right, Steph?

Also, how is the "jesus % chimp thing" an insult?

1) It is true, our genome is 96% identical to that of chimps.
2) How is being compared to a chimp an insult? In many ways they are better than us. At least they don't fuck each other over for a percentage.

by **Stephanie** Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:58 am

Terry,

Keli and I have had words over his attacks on Islam and Muslims. We most certainly have. Just the other day I let him have it over some outrageous post regarding Muslims. So yes, I have and he isn't the only person here I have done that with.

One of the first debates I ever got involved in on the old forum was with Cato regarding an Imam in Michigan and his insistance that he was a terrorist because some whack job named Deb Schlusser said he was.

by Keli Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:23 am

TerryRC wrote:You're not using a religious symbol or icon. You're bastardizing something those people consider sacred. You have no respect and lack common courtesy.

And you called out Keli on the various islam-insulting pictures he has posted, right, Steph?

Also, how is the "jesus % chimp thing" an insult?

1) It is true, our genome is 96% identical to that of chimps.
2) How is being compared to a chimp an insult? In many ways they are better than us. At least they don't fuck each other over for a percentage.

On one hand you defend Muslims and criticize any perceived insult to Islam; however, you would approve a graphic "Mohammad was 97% chimp"--even if Muslims found it to be offensive? TerryRC, your bias is glaring.

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:08 pm

Preacher,

Was Jesus human?

Do human's share 96+% genetic identity with chimps?

by Keli Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:28 pm

bmd wrote:Preacher,

Was Jesus human?

Do human's share 96+% genetic identity with chimps?

Why not say that chimps are 96%+ human and that a common design implies a common designer? Your purpose in posting the "Christ is 97% Chimp" was not to make a scientific statement--rather, it was to be blasphemous. I am offended. Does that matter to you?

(Incidentally, my offer stands. Why can't use answer my question. If you do, I will gladly answer yours. A)re you stumped?)

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:29 pm

Perhaps one of the more superstitious members of the forum can take a stab at refuting the results of this paper:

Mikkelsen, T.S., et al. 2005. Initial sequence of the chimpanzee genome and comparison with the human genome. Nature 437, 69-87

Or, would you rather refute that Jesus was a man?

by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:35 pm

bmd wrote:Perhaps one of the more superstitious members of the forum can take a stab at refuting the results of this paper:

Mikkelsen, T.S., et al. 2005. Initial sequence of the chimpanzee genome and comparison with the human genome. Nature 437, 69-87

Or, would you rather refute that Jesus was a man?

I will refute everything when you prove that the God of the Bible is not the True and Living God. Put up or shut up.

by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:38 pm

bmd wrote:Perhaps one of the more superstitious members of the forum can take a stab at refuting the results of this paper:

Mikkelsen, T.S., et al. 2005. Initial sequence of the chimpanzee genome and comparison with the human genome. Nature 437, 69-87

Or, would you rather refute that Jesus was a man?

Jesus was 100% man and 100% God at the same time. Someday, you will bow the knee and confess that truth to the glory of God. I pray that it will not be too late when you do it.

Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

by Ich bin Ala-awkbarph Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:39 pm

bmd wrote:Perhaps one of the more superstitious members of the forum can take a stab at refuting the results of this paper:

Mikkelsen, T.S., et al. 2005. Initial sequence of the chimpanzee genome and comparison with the human genome. Nature 437, 69-87

Or, would you rather refute that Jesus was a man?

Your purpose in posting the "Christ is 97% Chimp" was not to make a scientific statement--rather, it was to be blasphemous. I am offended.

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:41 pm

Keli wrote:
bmd wrote:Preacher,

Was Jesus human?

Do human's share 96+% genetic identity with chimps?

Why not say that chimps are 96%+ human...

I believe that I made that comment earlier.

Keli wrote:...and that a common design implies a common designer?

I see no evidence for that. The most parsimonious interpretation is that the genera Homo and Pan had a common ancestor. The best estimate is that their divergence was about 6 to 7 mya.

Keli wrote:Your purpose in posting the "Christ is 97% Chimp" was not to make a scientific statement--rather, it was to be blasphemous. I am offended. Does that matter to you?

Your telepathic powers have failed you again. My purpose was to make people think (an activity sorely lacking around here). That you are offended was just icing.

Keli wrote:(Incidentally, my offer stands. Why can't use answer my question. If you do, I will gladly answer yours. A)re you stumped?)

Again, I asked first. Let's take things in order, shall we?

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:43 pm

Armon Ayers wrote:Your purpose in posting the "Christ is 97% Chimp" was not to make a scientific statement--rather, it was to be blasphemous. I am offended.[/b]

Why, are you offended? With which part of the argument do you not agree?

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:45 pm

BTW,

Were either John-Paul II or Mother Theresa not human?

by bmd Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:46 pm

Also, not agreeing with scientific results because "they don't feel good" does nothing to refute their validity.

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