Re: Good news for Democrats and Progressives??

by SamCogar Sat May 31, 2008 10:24 am

Stephanie wrote:His degree will be in law enforcement. Are they going to make him an MP? Doesn't everyone hate those guys?

Yes, I still want to cry. We love Josh and want him safe and home here in the US. He is very intelligent and a kind person with an amazing sense of humour.

YUP, justa like i'ma ben tellin ya, ..... "emotional instead of logical".

Ittsa genetically inherited femininey thingy that no one can do much anything about.

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by **Stephanie** Sat May 31, 2008 10:34 am

Why isn't my response logical? It is very likely my nephew will be sent to a war zone in little more than a year. Thinking about it makes me want to cry. (Also, to keep him away from my own sons...is that chest beating sort of patriotism contagious? Did I raise my sons to be cowardly enough? lol)

by SamCogar Sat May 31, 2008 10:36 am

Stephanie wrote:Sam,

The Church committed all kinds of atrocities against people of that region. I can't fix that. Nobody can fix that.

We can stop sending money and munitions to Israel though.

YUP, and we can stop treating the Native Americans the way we do, ..... the 1st thing being would be to abolish the Bureau of Indian Affairs ....... and to give all their money to them that is being held "in trust" and spent on the "will n' pleasure" of the Bureau Members themselves.

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by **Stephanie** Sat May 31, 2008 10:39 am

Oh, but don't you know the BIA has been very, very helpful to some tribes. Just ask the Mashantucket Pequots!

by SamCogar Sat May 31, 2008 10:45 am

Stephanie wrote:Why isn't my response logical? It is very likely my nephew will be sent to a war zone in little more than a year. Thinking about it makes me want to cry. (Also, to keep him away from my own sons...is that chest beating sort of patriotism contagious? Did I raise my sons to be cowardly enough? lol)

DUH, primarily because "crying" is not a logical reaction.

Except maybe for Hillary's crying ...... at the right time and place. Good news for Democrats and Progressives?? - Page 5 49761

Good news for Democrats and Progressives?? - Page 5 49761

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by SamCogar Sat May 31, 2008 10:53 am

Stephanie wrote:Oh, but don't you know the BIA has been very, very helpful to some tribes. Just ask the Mashantucket Pequots!

HA, and those Mashantucket Pequots are most probably "paying kickbacks" in one way or another to those that have been very, very helpful to them.

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by ziggy Sat May 31, 2008 10:57 am

Stephanie wrote:Why isn't my response logical? It is very likely my nephew will be sent to a war zone in little more than a year. Thinking about it makes me want to cry. (Also, to keep him away from my own sons...is that chest beating sort of patriotism contagious? Did I raise my sons to be cowardly enough? lol)

Crying is not "logical" because it is natural, Stephanie. (Ziggy spoofing here)

But the SamCogars think themselves above naturality, and that all the rest of us should either share or at least salute their supernaturality. I have seen this before- up close and personal. I saw my father slap my mother just because she dared to cry. It shows "emotional weakness" in front of the children, he told her- as though that were a corporal sin worthy of corporal punishment. And Sam is cyber slapping you here in the same way, and likely for the same reason- the inability to include and accept himself as one more among more or less equals of the naturally emotional creatures that we are.

by SamCogar Sat May 31, 2008 12:55 pm

ziggy wrote:
Crying is not "logical" because it is natural, Stephanie. (Ziggy spoofing here) Well DUH, if it is an inherited instinct then of course it is "natural".

But the SamCogars think themselves above naturality, Well DUH, males don't inherit feminine qualities and normal males are not nurtured to act like females. and that all the rest of us should either share or at least salute their supernaturality. Well YES, any girley-men or females can salute one's masculanity if they want to ..... but most won't. But a normally nurtured female doesn't have a problem with masculinity and vice-versa. I have seen this before- up close and personal. I saw my father slap my mother just because she dared to cry. It shows "emotional weakness" in front of the children, he told her- as though that were a corporal sin worthy of corporal punishment. And because of that event you done decided to be damned and gone to hell before you would ever "show" emotional or mental weakness any where or any place, right Zig. And Sam is cyber slapping you here in the same way, And Ziggy is cyber hugging you here in his girly-man way and likely for the same reason- the inability to include and accept himself as one more among more or less equals of the naturally emotional creatures that we are. And NO, not remotely likely the same as Zig's cyber hugging because Sam is not a girley-man and therefore IS NOT more or less equal to the naturally emotional creatures that girley-men and females are.

by ziggy Sat May 31, 2008 3:24 pm

I told you so.

And Sam's own words just above confirm (reconfirm) it, yet again.

by SamCogar Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:37 am

ziggy wrote:I told you so.

And Sam's own words just above confirm (reconfirm) it, yet again.

Well now Zig, ..... you can deny it, ....... argue against it, ....... or avert your eyes and your mind to the scientific fact(s) that there are differences in the inherited traits of the males and females of most species, ...... but in your doing so only proves that your nurturing, ..... both intellect and sexuality mindset was quite inadequate for engaging in discussions of this nature.

And Mr. Zigster, it is not uncommon for one to utter the remarks, or to hear others utter the remarks of "she acts just like her mother" and/or "he acts just like his father", ....... and that is because one can readily see the similarities in their mannerisms, thinking, actions, reactions, etc. that the son learned (was nurtured) from the father and the daughter learned (was nurtured) from the mother.

But now Mr. Zigster, what is not so commonly uttered or heard uttered are the alternate comments of "she acts just like her father" and/or "he acts just like his mother", ....... and that is because "slang" expressions are mostly used to denote the similarities in their mannerisms, thinking, actions, reactions, etc.

Some such "slang" expressions are: mama's boy or daddy's girl, ...., sissy or tomboy, ..... girly-man or she-man, ...... she-he or he-she, etc.

And Ziggy, ..... you can also deny the above, ....... argue against it, ....... or avert your eyes and your mind to said observed "opposite sex" similarities ..... but your actions will only be that of "self denial" of observed criteria.

And Ziggy, the intentional denial of "factural data" that is presented for one's review ...... is without question an "emotional decision" on their part, ..... not a "logical decision".

And that big boy ......... is a "feminist trait" that evolved millions of years ago to better insure the survival of one's offspring, ..... baby, .... child, ..... etc.

And that "feminist trait" can easily be observed in/of the females of many other species.

The female will "protect their young" ........ even though they face certain death in doing so.

cheers

by ziggy Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:15 am

And so your point is what, Sam- other than that you view yourself as above your fellow brothers and sisters of mankind in viewing your own sense of "logic" as superior to all others?

by **Stephanie** Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:43 am

Oh my.......

Sammy ole boy....watching this unfold has got me thinkin' about our dearly departed (from the forum) "friend" Lindaredtail. LOL

She had so much fun with her amatuer pschoanalysis of you. I read the preceeding posts and am convinced a real headshrinker would have a genuine ball with you, dear. I think someone might get an entire book outta you.

On the other hand, I'm sure ole Ziggy and I are worthy of a chapter or two ourselves.

I am a woman. I LIKE being a girl.

I also admire a man with the courage to show true emotion. It takes a certain degree of courage for a man to do so. Must be another illogical femininey thingie.

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by ziggy Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:04 pm

It's all about emotional honesty. And Sam just hates that in women- and he hates it even more in men.

by SamCogar Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:15 pm

ziggy wrote:And so your point is what, Sam- other than that you view yourself as above your fellow brothers and sisters of mankind in viewing your own sense of "logic" as superior to all others?

Well Zigster, when it pertains to the future survival and advancement of mankind, ....... "YES", ...... my sense of "logical decisions" is far superior in attaining said ....... than is your sense of "emotional decisions" because they will only exacerbate the degradation, downfall and collapse of our society and eventually the human race as we now know it.

You seem to forget, that is if you even had a clue, ...... that the only thing that saved your arse in the long term ........ was that someone with a better sense of "logic" than you ..... amassed enough equity/funds to purchase the property from you that you owned. Without said transaction, Zig, you would be unable to live the lifestyle said transaction afforded you to now be living.

At the time of said transaction, ...... you could not afford to make such a purchase, ........ and if everyone else was like you, ..... then none of them could have afforded to purchase your property, .......... and you would have been "up shidt creek without a paddle".

So Zigster, don't be trying to tell everyone that your "emotional" sense is just as good or superior to someone else's "logical" sense.

That dog won't hunt. geek

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by ziggy Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:30 pm

So Zigster, don't be trying to tell everyone that your "emotional" sense is just as good or superior to someone else's "logical" sense.

Now did I tell anyone that? I claim no such, nor any other such emotional or other personal superiority.

That is YOUR attitude about yourself, Sam. Why can't you just be honest enough to admit it?

I am just trying to get by, doing the best I can. And if that's not good enough for the great SamCogar, then he can go play with hisself some more. That will make him our even greater superior, as well as help him feel even better about himself.

by SamCogar Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:14 pm

Stephanie wrote:
I am a woman. I LIKE being a girl.

Steph, and I'm sure your hubs likes and appreciates that fact also.

Stephanie wrote:I also admire a man with the courage to show true emotion. It takes a certain degree of courage for a man to do so. Must be another illogical femininey thingie.

Stephanie, all normal males are capable of "emotional feelings", be they happy emotions or sad emotions. But now most males do not have a problem "showing" their true "happy" emotions, ..... but the majority of males, due to their nurturing, do have a problem and require a certain degree of courage in showing their true "sad" emotions.

GEEEZE Steph, there are two (2) situations when I will "cry tears like a baby with a sore tummy". The 1st one is if I'm watching a real sad movie and it does take a lot of courage to let someone see me do it. The 2nd one is when I get really, really, really pissed off at someone ..... and its best for their sake that they be watching me, .... eyeballs to eyeballs, ..... very closely when I commence doing it. Courage is not a "questionable option". Evil or Very Mad

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