Strange Death of West Virginia Republicans

TerryRC wrote:Obama may be as crooked as our last president but he is no idiot. He was mayor of a city that has more people than the whole state of Alaska. He got to spend some time in DC as a senator. Palin got to spend some time in Juneau.

And what city was that RC?

And what city was that RC?

My mistake.

I though he had been mayor of Chicago. Looked it up and found I was wrong.

He represented one of the most populous state senate districts in the nation.

He has a degree in international relations. What was Palin's degree in?

I didn't vote for Obama. I voted against McCain/Palin. I curse both parties for offering me these evils.

TerryRC wrote:And what city was that RC?

My mistake.

I though he had been mayor of Chicago. Looked it up and found I was wrong.

He represented one of the most populous state senate districts in the nation.He has a degree in international relations. What was Palin's degree in?

I didn't vote for Obama. I voted against McCain/Palin. I curse both parties for offering me these evils.

And voted "Present" on every controversial issue, including a late term abortion bill he help write.

Palin wasn't running for President so you can't compare her experience to his.

So once again, what qualifications, other then an ivy league education, did Barrack Obama bring to the office of President of the United States?

TerryRC wrote:I'd say Sarah Palin is far more qualified to run the country than the man currently occupying the Oval Office.

I'd say you were wrong.

Obama may be as crooked as our last president but he is no idiot. He was mayor of a city that has more people than the whole state of Alaska.

And just what city was he Mayor of?

TerryRC wrote:Also, the woman is a dunce. She couldn't even debate Joe Biden.

Debating an idiot like Joe Biden ...... is equivalent to debating you.

Weazelwording, gaffes, piffle, BS and confusion is extremely diffficult for some people to sensibly respond to.

Especially when a partisan biased MC is controlling the debate.

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Wow........I read Terry's post and was thinking.....when and where was BHO mayor of anything?

Sarah Palin has actually had the experience of running a community and a state. Obama has experience organizing things.

Look, I didn't vote for McCain/Palin. However, Palin was far more qualified to be POTUS than BHO was, and she wasn't even running for that job. She was running for VP.

For all of those liberals who made such a racket about how unqualified Governor Palin is, I wonder how they like the level of competence of the VP they did elect, Joe "hey, the VP's bunker is here" Biden.

Palin wasn't running for President so you can't compare her experience to his.

Considering that Palin was one McCain stroke from the POTUS, I think we can. Also, Steph is the one that said Palin was more qualified than the guy we have in there, so, yes, I think we can compare the two.

So once again, what qualifications, other then an ivy league education, did Barrack Obama bring to the office of President of the United States?

Experience overseeing a hell of alot more people than Palin did. An actual understanding of international relations and history

So what was Palin's big experience? Going from college to college to get a degree? Building a white elephant of a building in Wasilla? Raising the price of oil for all of us by putting a huge profit tax on oil taken from Alaska (guess who that cost got passed to)?

Biden says some stupid things. I quite agree with that. He, however, also has tons more experience than Palin.

Like I said, the Republican Party is in its death throws. Probably from too many of them feeling that people who can't even name a single newspaper are fit to lead the country.

Like I said, I'm not thrilled with the job that Obama is doing. That doesn't mean I'm foolish enough to say that a soccer mom from Alaska who used her ignorance as a selling point is more qualified to lead the country than the person we have.

If Sarah Palin had been the POTUS Candidate and McCain the VP Candidate, the Election results would have been different.

You all seem to forget that the McCain bunch kept a muzzle on Palin. And the dumbest thing they did was schedule her for an interview with/by Katy Couric and refused to let her appear on and/or be interviewed by anyone on Fox News.

I still have this gut feeling that McCain's sudden rise to POTUS Candidate Stardom ...... and then his intentional dastardly blunders ...... were all orchestrated to put Obama in the WH.

Why else would he have chosen a virtually unknown Governor from Alaska as his VP choice, ...... when logically, ...... Romney would have been a better choice.

I truly believe that Palin surprised the hell out of the McCain camp and that's why they kept a tight reign on her. And she also surprised the hell out of the partisan Democrat press, etc. and that is why they launched a viscious attack on anything and everything about her. Her clothes, her children, her hunting skills, her husband, her immedate family and inlaws, her religious beliefs, etc. .......


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TerryRC wrote:Palin wasn't running for President so you can't compare her experience to his.

Considering that Palin was one McCain stroke from the POTUS, I think we can. (Hillary Clinton was only one stroke from the POTUS and she was less qualified than even you.) Also, Steph is the one that said Palin was more qualified than the guy we have in there, so, yes, I think we can compare the two. (And we all know the extent of your capability of reasonable and logical thinking. Especially after you voted for Obama because he had been a great Mayor of a large City of over a million population.)

So once again, what qualifications, other then an ivy league education, did Barrack Obama bring to the office of President of the United States?

Experience overseeing a hell of alot more people than Palin did. (You truly believe that ACORN employs over 800,000 people, huh? ) An actual understanding of international relations (And you believe Obama did .... and that's why he appointed Hillary as his travelling expert. ) and history. (History advisers are "a dime a dozen" and DC is overrun with them and there are probably several that are not constantly "looking dead horses in their asses.")

So what was Palin's big experience? Going from college to college to get a degree? (OOOHH, THAT'S A SWITCH, ..... now you are badmouthing someone for earning a Degree. And you told me never to do that because you were edumacated and had a Degree.) Building a white elephant of a building in Wasilla? (And how does that compare to all of Byrd's white elephants, ... or Murtha's white elephants, or ... .... ?) Raising the price of oil for all of us by putting a huge profit tax on oil taken from Alaska (guess who that cost got passed to) (DUMBASS, Alaska's tax on OIL PROFITS only decreased oil company profits .... and didn't affect the selling price per barrel of oil.)?

Biden says some stupid things. I quite agree with that. He, however, also has tons more experience than Palin. (Yeah right, tons more experience at being a do-nothing Democrat Politician that adheres strictly to the Party piffle, your favorite type..)

Like I said, the Republican Party is in its death throws. Probably from too many of them feeling that people who can't even name a single newspaper are fit to lead the country. (Anyone that thinks a primary prerequisite for being POTUS is that one know the name(s) of a Newspaper, or that they must be readers of said, ...... is dumber in the head than a hog is in the ass. Such a person must also think that daily editions of all major Newspapers, including the Charleston Gazette, are air-mailed to all remote bush areas in Alaska so that the residents can read said while enjoying their morning cup of coffee.)

Like I said, I'm not thrilled with the job that Obama is doing. That doesn't mean I'm foolish enough to say that a soccer mom from Alaska who used her ignorance as a selling point is more qualified to lead the country than the person we have. (You might as well go ahead and say that, ....... everything else you previously stated was pretty damn foolish so why hesitate on your last comment.)

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TerryRC wrote:Experience overseeing a hell of alot more people than Palin did. An actual understanding of international relations and history

In other words, none. Why didn't you just say so?

Terry,

What experience managerial and supervisory did BHO bring to the White House? What did BHO run that made him qualified for the job he currently holds?

It seems to me the greatest attribute BHO had was being able to memorize a script and read a teleprompter because I've noticed recently a whole lot of, "Umm" and "ah" etc.

Another thing I've noticed about BHO....he's a typical politician. You can always tell when he's lying because his lips are moving.

Millions of people voted for Obama because he promised to bring the troops home. Instead he's sending them to Afghanistan and now infiltrating Pakistan. He is a no good, war mongering, empire building liar precisely like his predecessor. He won't bring the troops home, he won't stop the torture of prisoners, he won't end the practice of rendition. He's Bush on steriods when it comes to deficit spending and he's driving this country to her knees and we have no hope for at least the next 48 months because if something should happen to this President a very likable, kind of good looking guy with the intellect of a gnat will take his place.

We're screwed.

I'm still convinced that we are better off with the likeable, good-looking gnat-brained guy in charge.

I dislike Obama, and his next trick is going to be to nominate a socialist pro-abortion judge who the mainstream media will call a "centrist" because they do not believe in imprisoning people for being white or Republican.

Hillary Clinton was only one stroke from the POTUS and she was less qualified than even you.

Hillary was running for VP?

Sam, the rest of your post is such shit.

You like Palin because she is somewhat easy on the eyes. Other than that, what qualifications did she have?

Did she know anything about foreign policies? When asked where she gets her news, she said "newspapers" and then couldn't name a single one. She called Africa a "country".

She couldn't answer a single question in debate, instead trying to turn things back to her "energy policy".

So, we have determined that Obama had foreign policy experience. We have determined that he knows something about the constitution (Palin didn't know the actual duties of the VP when asked). We know he has some experience representing a diverse and dense group of people.

What, again, were Palin's qualifications, besides boobs and her belief in witches, that is?

C'mon. You guys have ripped on me. Why don't you take a turn.

BTW, Sammy. Why don't you provide some evidence for this statement:

DUMBASS, Alaska's tax on OIL PROFITS only decreased oil company profits .... and didn't affect the selling price per barrel of oil.

So that was never passed to the consumer in any way... ?

Can't wait to see some answers for you all.

TerryRC wrote:So, we have determined that Obama had foreign policy experience.

When and how was that determined?

The time he spent in Indonesia as a child?

Experience overseeing a hell of alot more people than Palin did. An actual understanding of international relations and history.

Campaign workers? Obama never directly supervised anybody. Volunteers leaning on brooms?

Obama is polished and bright. Palin came off as confused and ignorant. I'll readily agree with that. That's all handling and has nothing to do with substance.

Palin has administered a state. Obama has administered a perpetual campaign and a ragtag band of local volunteers. Loath though I am to jump into this I like this case for Palin much better than the one you make. Why does Palin continue to be your white whale?

TerryRC wrote: Hillary Clinton was only one stroke from the POTUS and she was less qualified than even you.

Hillary was running for VP?

The above question that is highlighted in red is justifiable evidence that the non-quoted content of the above post was the opinion of a clueless idiotic person who is quite mentally challenged and therefore said content is little more than rambling piffle of no probative value whatsoever.

Anyone in their right mind knows that Hillary was “running” to be elected as the Democrat Party’s POTUS Candidate. And that was her "one stroke" and she struct out. If she had won said then she would have been elected POTUS. The lefty liberal media would have insured that happening.

The 2008 General Election was more about attaining Democrat control of both the Congress and the White House, it really had very little to do with qualifications of Candidates. And that was proven when the votes were counted.

McCain was a hell of a lot more qualified than Obama, but he would not have been any improvement over the previous.

I believe "real improvement" would only have occured via something equivalent to a Romney-Palin win.

TerryRC wrote:Sam, the rest of your post is such shit.

You like Palin because she is somewhat easy on the eyes. Other than that, what qualifications did she have?

Did she know anything about foreign policies? When asked where she gets her news, she said "newspapers" and then couldn't name a single one. She called Africa a "country".

She couldn't answer a single question in debate, instead trying to turn things back to her "energy policy".

So, we have determined that Obama had foreign policy experience. We have determined that he knows something about the constitution (Palin didn't know the actual duties of the VP when asked). We know he has some experience representing a diverse and dense group of people.

What, again, were Palin's qualifications, besides boobs and her belief in witches, that is?

C'mon. You guys have ripped on me. Why don't you take a turn.

BTW, Sammy. Why don't you provide some evidence for this statement:

DUMBASS, Alaska's tax on OIL PROFITS only decreased oil company profits .... and didn't affect the selling price per barrel of oil.

So that was never passed to the consumer in any way... ?

Can't wait to see some answers for you all.

If it wasn't for something just to keep me occupied I wouldn't bother replying to unedumacateable numbnuts. But what the hell ..............

Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office as the youngest governor in Alaska history at 42 years of age ….

Under her leadership, Alaska invested more than $5 billion in state savings, increased education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska. She also established the Rural Subcabinet to create stronger, safer and healthier communities in the state’s outlying regions.

Governor Palin’s other accomplishments include the passage of community revenue sharing, an omnibus crime package, aviation safety, the reduction of business license fees, and an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws. She took steps to address Alaskans’ emergency energy needs by establishing a renewable energy fund, making rebates available for home weatherization and increasing the availability of bulk fuel loans to small communities and utilities.

In a major milestone in state history, Governor Palin’s administration developed and implemented a competitive process to initiate construction of a natural gas pipeline through the passage of the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act, or AGIA. Under AGIA, the Legislature authorized the administration to award a state license to TransCanada Alaska to permit, develop and build a 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe Bay on Alaska’s North Slope to the Alberta Hub in Canada.

In a special session, Governor Palin also championed reform of Alaska’s new profits-based tax on oil production. The governor’s legislation, Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Shares, or ACES, captured billions in state revenue at record high oil prices.

http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php

Only a blooming idiot would claim that Obama was more experienced than Sarah Palin.

TRC, clean the shit out of your own nest before you complain about a stench in another person's nest, to wit:

While not every county in West Virginia produces coal, all counties receive a severance tax paid by the coal industry. Upon every person within this state in the business of severing or preparing coal for sale, there is imposed an additional severance tax. This additional tax on coal is collected by the State Tax Commissioner and transferred into a special fund within the State Treasurer's Office. Seventy-five (75%) of the net proceeds is distributed to coal producing counties. The remaining twenty-five (25%) of the net proceeds are distributed to all counties and municipalities of the state, based on their population, without regard to coal having been produced therein.
http://www.wvsto.com/Tax+Distribution/Coal+Severance+Tax.htm

Like many states with abundant natural resources, West Virginia levies a severance tax on the mining of coal. The tax is generally calculated as 5 percent of the gross receipts of the coal mined in West Virginia.

As much as 20 percent of West Virginia coal is exported to countries outside the United States. However, in some cases the state measures the tax based on the tonnage measured or price used when the coal is delivered (outside of West Virginia) to a ship for export. In all cases, West Virginia does not distinguish between coal destined for export or coal used domestically.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1237.html

What a "hoot", someone whose job, salary and entitlements are rooted in taxes collected from production of natural resorces ....... is pissing, moaning and badmouthing Elected Officials of another State for employing similar practices.



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Anyone in their right mind knows that Hillary was “running” to be elected as the Democrat Party’s POTUS Candidate. And that was her "one stroke" and she struct out. If she had won said then she would have been elected POTUS. The lefty liberal media would have insured that happening.

And she didn't get the nod, not for the prez or the VP. So your statement about Clinton being one step away from the button is less than accurate.

What a "hoot", someone whose job, salary and entitlements are rooted in taxes collected from production of natural resorces ....... is pissing, moaning and badmouthing Elected Officials of another State for employing similar practices.

That is what I was waiting for. You couldn't actually provide evidence that the windfall tax wasn't passed on to the consumer so you go into personal attack mode.

My point was that Palin doesn't have much problem generating revenue to fund her goals in Alaska.

Only a blooming idiot would claim that Obama was more experienced than Sarah Palin.

In your opinion. Apparently many in her own party disagreed. Why do you think she has gotten all "mavericky". What you listed above makes Palin no more qualified than any other high ranking state official. you have listed nothing that shows she was MORE qualified than anyone else in the race, except, perhaps, Clinton, whom I despise.

Governor Palin’s other accomplishments include the passage of community revenue sharing, an omnibus crime package, aviation safety, the reduction of business license fees, and an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws. She took steps to address Alaskans’ emergency energy needs by establishing a renewable energy fund, making rebates available for home weatherization and increasing the availability of bulk fuel loans to small communities and utilities.

And promptly got investigated herself for abuse of power and some expense account "irregularities".

When and how was that [foreign policy experience] determined?

From Wiki:

Following high school, he moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.[23] After two years he transferred in 1981 to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations[24] and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation[25][26] and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[27][28]

In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act, marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.

Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[96] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[97] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[98] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He met with Mahmoud Abbas before he became President of the Palestinian Authority, and gave a speech at the University of Nairobi condemning corruption in the Kenyan government.[99][100][101][102]

Yes, and he also spent part of his childhood abroad.

We could go on, but why bother? You all are going to tell me that a soccer mom whom I believe had never been out of the country before her nomination had more foreign policy experience than our current president.

The woman is a dunce and has had an exorcism TO PROTECT HER FROM WITCHCRAFT.

I pray she gets the nod from right-wingers in 2012.

Campaign workers? Obama never directly supervised anybody. Volunteers leaning on brooms?

Wasn't he state senator over a district with more people in it than the whole state of Alaska?

Terry,

Illinois has 59 legislative districts, all being roughly equal in population. I don't think Obama's district would have been more populous than Alaska, unless there are even fewer Alaskans than I think.

Sam's comparison of Alaska and West Virginia is appropriate. Both states have an abundance of natural resources, although obviously coal has fallen out of favor. Alaska is doing a much better job than West Virginia ever did at spreading around the fruits of this.

Alaska is doing a much better job than West Virginia ever did at spreading around the fruits of this.

All of which happened before Palin was even born.

Illinois has 59 legislative districts, all being roughly equal in population. I don't think Obama's district would have been more populous than Alaska, unless there are even fewer Alaskans than I think.

It is a big chunk of Chicago and the burbs, wasn't it? Likely at least 3-4 million people. What is the population of Alaska?

TerryRC wrote:When and how was that [foreign policy experience] determined?

From Wiki:

Following high school, he moved to Los Angeles in 1979 to attend Occidental College.[23] After two years he transferred in 1981 to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations[24] and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation[25][26] and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[27][28]

In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act, marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.

Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[96] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[97] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[98] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He met with Mahmoud Abbas before he became President of the Palestinian Authority, and gave a speech at the University of Nairobi condemning corruption in the Kenyan government.[99][100][101][102]

Yes, and he also spent part of his childhood abroad.

We could go on, but why bother? You all are going to tell me that a soccer mom whom I believe had never been out of the country before her nomination had more foreign policy experience than our current president.

Taking a college course and setting on a committee for 2 years does not give him foreign policy experience and certainly doesn't make him an expert.

Nice try though.

TerryRC wrote:Campaign workers? Obama never directly supervised anybody. Volunteers leaning on brooms?

Wasn't he state senator over a district with more people in it than the whole state of Alaska?

Perhaps that's part of your problem. You think our elected Representatives 'supervise' us. They don't and Obama has no experience there either.

By your own posting, he's a gifted speaker who happens to be well educated but he has no practical experience or qualifications for the position he currently holds.

Perhaps that's the reasons his first 100 days are riddled with so many SNAFU's.

TerryRC wrote:Alaska is doing a much better job than West Virginia ever did at spreading around the fruits of this.

All of which happened before Palin was even born.

Illinois has 59 legislative districts, all being roughly equal in population. I don't think Obama's district would have been more populous than Alaska, unless there are even fewer Alaskans than I think.

It is a big chunk of Chicago and the burbs, wasn't it? Likely at least 3-4 million people. What is the population of Alaska?

Terry,

I love ya, but on this one you'll need to stick to the bugs. There are about 13 million or so people in Illinois divided into 59 legislative districts. For Obama's to have been 3 million would have required a state population of about 177 million.

TerryRC wrote:(Ohio) Campaign workers? Obama never directly supervised anybody. Volunteers leaning on brooms?

Wasn't he state senator over a district with more people in it than the whole state of Alaska?

MERCY GAWDS, buy them books, send them to school, ………….. and they get dumber n’ dumber.

First it was this, to wit:

TerryRC wrote: He was mayor of a city that has more people than the whole state of Alaska. He got to spend some time in DC as a senator.

Then he tries to tell Ohio that a State Senator is a Supervisor over the people in his District.

A great Poster Boy to advertise the elite thinking Degree holding State employees of WV.



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TerryRC wrote:Alaska is doing a much better job than West Virginia ever did at spreading around the fruits of this.

All of which happened before Palin was even born.

If anyone knows what Palin’s birth has to do with WV’s Legislative actions ….. please tell me.

How is it possible for one so mentally challenged to ever be given a Master’s Degree in anything?

Being mentally challenged must be a contributing factor for deviousness and dishonesty, to wit:

TerryRC wrote: (Palin) Raising the price of oil for all of us by putting a huge profit tax on oil taken from Alaska (guess who that cost got passed to)

Palin was not responsible for putting a huge profit tax on Alaska oil. The quoted article SPECIFICALLY stated, to wit:

In a special session, Governor Palin also championed reform of Alaska’s new profits-based tax on oil production.

One would think that even a Wacky Tobacca user should know what "reform" means.

The Governor responsible for said tax was, to wit:

03/30/2006 - Alaska Gov. Seeks Profits-Based Oil Tax

Alaska Gov. Frank Murkowski (R), while falling short of calling for a windfall profits tax, has called for a new net profits tax that would squeeze progressively more money from oil companies as gas prices go up.

Murkowski would tax net profits at 20 percent, while continuing to collect corporate income taxes, property taxes, and royalties from oil companies. The net profits tax would replace a current tax on production that is not tied to oil prices.

http://environment.ncpa.org/commentaries/alaska-gov-seeks-profits-based-oil-tax

Palin did not become Governor until, to wit:

Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office as the youngest governor in Alaska history …..

TRC, either clean up your act or go find a hole to crawl in and look for bugs or something.

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Taking a college course and setting on a committee for 2 years does not give him foreign policy experience and certainly doesn't make him an expert.

It makes him more qualified than a soccer mom that didn't know the difference between a continent and a country, doesn't it?

TerryRC wrote:Taking a college course and setting on a committee for 2 years does not give him foreign policy experience and certainly doesn't make him an expert.

It makes him more qualified than a soccer mom that didn't know the difference between a continent and a country, doesn't it?

What soccer mom didn't know the difference between a continent and a country?