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Post by TerryRC Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:01 am

What soccer mom didn't know the difference between a continent and a country?

Palin called Africa a country. Not surprising. Wasn't her first trip abroad just before her nomination?

There are about 13 million or so people in Illinois divided into 59 legislative districts. For Obama's to have been 3 million would have required a state population of about 177 million.

Aren't there over 10 million just in Chicago and suburbs, Mike?

Also, I am guilty of incomplete expression. When I used the word "supervised", I meant to follow it with "the needs and desires of the very diverse groups in his district". It should be obvious that I don't think politicians are our bosses and foremen. That doesn't stop people like Sam from focusing on my "shortcomings" like my poor college education. Makes it easier to avoid addressing arguments.

Regardless, you all are like creationists - you can say why, in your opinion, Obama isn't qualified but you can't show how Palin is qualified.

If being a so-so governor of a low population state is enough, I expect you all would think Jumpin' Joe Manchin is SUPER qualified.

Meh.

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Post by SheikBen Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:21 am

Uh, Terry. If you are suggesting that a state senator in Illinois (who represents 1/59th of the state) supervises over ALL of Illinois, then the same could be said of 58 other people you have never heard of, and for good reason.

Chicagoland is divided into more than 40 legislative districts (the ones that elect State Senators).

So, no, again, Obama did not previously have experience in a district larger than Alaska, except as his brief stint as a UNITED STATES SENATOR. Not a State Senator, which he was also.

Work with me, here, Terry. United States Senators meet in Washington DC, and there are 2 per state. As a State Senator, which he was for a longer period of time, they meet in Springfield and there is one per legislative district.

But it is not his lack of experience that bothers me, and it never has. The man's socialist policies are going to ruin us (and Bush did not help one bit to this effect) and I find his abortion views reprehensible.

I have never cited his lack of experience as the reason I do not support the man. While I think there is a dearth of experience there, you are quite correct that Palin fit that category as well.

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Post by Aaron Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:30 am

TerryRC wrote:Palin called Africa a country. Not surprising. Wasn't her first trip abroad just before her nomination?

That was a story leaked by a moderate McCain campaign worker who wanted Lieberman and not Palin on the ticket. People like you bought it hook, line and sinker. Says more about you then it does her.
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Post by SheikBen Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:32 am

People misspeak all the time, Aaron. I'm sure that Palin knew that Africa was a continent and not a country.

I'm sure TerryRC would be revolted (and for good reason) if anyone held him to spoken words said carelessly. Good heavens, follow most anyone around for a week and you will hear them say something that they did not intend or had not thought through.

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Post by TerryRC Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:36 am

That was a story leaked by a moderate McCain campaign worker who wanted Lieberman and not Palin on the ticket. People like you bought it hook, line and sinker. Says more about you then it does her.

Considering her interviews (particularly the one where Couric threw her softballs) and her debate with Biden, it is all too believable.

I don't rely on quotes, I have watched and listened to the woman speak.

If she isn't a brainless tool, she sure can act.

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Post by TerryRC Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:39 am

So, no, again, Obama did not previously have experience in a district larger than Alaska, except as his brief stint as a UNITED STATES SENATOR. Not a State Senator, which he was also.

I'd like to know how many people were in his state senate district. I know it was one of the densest populations in the state.

Regardless, it was very diverse.

Well. I'm not a huge Obama fan. I'm just waiting for Sam and Aaron to highlight Palin's qualifications.

Besides the obvious physical ones, anyro'.

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Post by Aaron Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:21 am

TerryRC wrote:Well. I'm not a huge Obama fan. I'm just waiting for Sam and Aaron to highlight Palin's qualifications.

She has executive experience.

Now why don't you try highlighting Obama's. About all you've managed to do so far is post some falsities and show that he went to college.

And regardless of how true you think the hoax was, it was still a hoax put out by John McCain's own campaign. And just like you, the liberal media ate it up because they wanted to believe it. And people wonder why this country is headed down so far so fast.
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Post by SamCogar Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:27 am

TerryRC wrote:Well. I'm not a huge Obama fan. I'm just waiting for Sam and Aaron to highlight Palin's qualifications.

Besides the obvious physical ones, anyro'.

It wouldn't matter if we highlighted them AGAIN a hundred times more, ......... you would still ignore and/or claim you didn't see/read our posts and continue with posting your "waiting game" to CYA from having to admit recognization of facts.

Tell me again, TRC, how many THOUSANDS of gallons of rainwater a tree canopy will hold up in the air to prevent flooding?

And don't be WAITING for me to be providing proof of your silly assed claims.

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Post by SheikBen Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:17 am

TerryRC wrote:So, no, again, Obama did not previously have experience in a district larger than Alaska, except as his brief stint as a UNITED STATES SENATOR. Not a State Senator, which he was also.

I'd like to know how many people were in his state senate district. I know it was one of the densest populations in the state.

Regardless, it was very diverse.

Well. I'm not a huge Obama fan. I'm just waiting for Sam and Aaron to highlight Palin's qualifications.

Besides the obvious physical ones, anyro'.

Once again, Terry, stick to the bugs. Baker v Carr mandated that districts be roughly equal in population. This is true both for Congressional districts as well as state legislative and representative districts, the former being what elected Obama in Illinois.

Obama simply could not have had significantly more than 1 out of 59 people living in Illinois, as such a district would be ruled unconstitutional, a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.

As for his district being "diverse," lovely. Wealthy attorneys in Hyde Park who own fabulous brownstones are always bragging on just how diverse they are. In every way except ideologically, of course.

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Post by SheikBen Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:22 am

Let me try to help you, TerryRC.

State legislative districts need to be roughly equal in population; as a result, some districts will have a larger geographical area than others. Obama's, being urban, was certainly dense.

But it (Obama's district) did not have significantly more population than 1/59th of the state of Illinois. Making it smaller than Alaska in population by far.

I also note with some interest your comparing of Obama's experience Palin's. The MSM loved to do that, too. Of course, Palin was running for VP and now we have an intern running the White House:)Smile

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Post by Stephanie Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:10 am

Michael,

Have I told you lately that I love you?

cheers
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Post by SheikBen Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:47 pm

Stop, you're turning my head!

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Post by Stephanie Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:09 pm

lol
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Post by TerryRC Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:03 am

She has executive experience.

Part of a term as govenor of one of the lowest population states in the nation? Joe Manchin for Prez!

I also note with some interest your comparing of Obama's experience Palin's. The MSM loved to do that, too. Of course, Palin was running for VP and now we have an intern running the White House

Except the topic that brought me in to this discussion was the possibility of Palin in 2012. it was you all that brought Obama into it by comparison. No? Perhaps I am mistaken about that. Anyway, I'm not referring to the past, except for waht it means to the GOP future.

Palin is not qualified for POTUS. Whether the POTUS we have is qualified or not isn't really germane to that issue.

Palin as VP made my decision to vote for Obama.

It showed that the GOP was just as willing to resort to showmanship as opposed to good sense as the democrats.

I felt that McCain was likely to be Bush Jr., but I was willing to give him a chance.

After bringing in Palin as a running mate, however, I was done even considering doing it. Not only did it show the desperation of the GOP, it put that woamn one heart attack from the White House. Biden may be a moron, but I'll take stupid over crazy any day.

The woman has turned on the people that successfully got her into politics. Her political history is tarnished with ethics investigations concerning abuses of power to abuses of state funds.

She is hypocritical, such as the example of saying no to the "bridge to nowhere", then taking the funds.

I could go on, but why bother. The woman had a priest from Africa give her an exorcism to protect her from witchcraft.

That says all I need to know.

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Post by TerryRC Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:06 am

Stop, you're turning my head!

Smooch, smooch.

Your spouses will be jealous.

So I don't know much about Illinois demographics. Consider me corrected, Mike.

He still REPRESENTED more people in his first political job than Palin did. The population of Wasilla, AK isn't that big, I'm thinking.

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Post by Stephanie Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:46 am

Terry, so what if Obama represented more people in his first political job than Palin? What does that matter? You're talking about a man who was best known for voting present, with no executive experience, and who's foreign policy experience was mostly comprised of living overseas as a child.

lol@smooch smooch
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Post by TerryRC Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:49 am

Terry, so what if Obama represented more people in his first political job than Palin? What does that matter? You're talking about a man who was best known for voting present, with no executive experience, and who's foreign policy experience was mostly comprised of living overseas as a child.

Well, I cited other foreign policy matters he proposed or was part of as a senator. About a page of it, in fact.

Anyway, my real point is that Palin is not qualified for POTUS. As I said, whether the POTUS we have is qualified or not isn't really germane to that issue.

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Post by Stephanie Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:04 am

Look, Terry, I have no intention of voting for the woman should she decide to seek the Oval Office in the future. However, I don't understand the level of hostility and the venom directed at Sarah Palin and her family.

I like her. I find her likable and simply can't understand why every misstatement, every faux pas is fodder for everybody from anchors to bloggers to comediens yet Obama, the man who holds the office of President of the United States can say the DUMBEST things and make the most OUTRAGEOUS proposals and nearly everybody looks the other way..........and those who don't are villified.
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Post by Aaron Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:52 am

We all know that this is ALL about religion for you Terry. I thought as a tough guy, you'd have the cahonna's to at least admit that.
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Post by SheikBen Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:50 pm

TerryRC wrote:Stop, you're turning my head!

Smooch, smooch.

Your spouses will be jealous.

So I don't know much about Illinois demographics. Consider me corrected, Mike.

He still REPRESENTED more people in his first political job than Palin did. The population of Wasilla, AK isn't that big, I'm thinking.

You know, Terry, you asked for this, so you will get it.

I simply adore my wife. My wife, the only person I have ever had sex with. My wife, the born again Christian that I enjoy having sex with. My wife, the pro-life, large-breasted, gun-loving, Palin-supporting (she voted for McCain, I did not), church-going, born-again Christian STAY AT HOME MOM, is someone who I would never betray.

Do you know who I likely would feel tempted to stray from?

The artsy, "no sex oath" hairy backed, abortion-loving, Obama fantasizing, non-bathing, hairy-armpitted she-devil who spends all of your money "finding herself" at the local Yoga parlor.

Liberals try to tell you that sexual liberation is found in emasculating yourself, watching the view, carrying the handbag, having a limp-wrist and walking about like a sweetie in hopes of getting a hand-job on your 50th anniversary.

Just think you should know.

And, btw, smooch smooch.

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Post by SheikBen Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:53 pm

As for Palin vs. Obama, TerryRC, just admit that you were WAY off.

You hadn't said anything about Wasilla v. Obama's first job before this, and I will tell you right now that a more irrelevant comparison could not be drawn.

We all start somewhere, Terry.

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Post by ohio county Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:00 pm

That the electorate has declined to elect more than three or four sitting U.S. Senators is evidence of their reticence to elect those without an executive mien to the office. Governors, yes. Senators, not so much. Obama's fitness for office is very germane to this discussion.
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Post by SheikBen Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:02 pm

I think that you are right that sitting US Senators are not generally elected President (the last before Obama was Kennedy) and that for good reason.

But, OC, surely you are worried more about the man's policies than his lack of experience?

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Post by Hacker Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:23 pm

Palin in 2012! Yeah!

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Post by SamCogar Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:24 am

Stephanie wrote: I don't understand the level of hostility and the venom directed at Sarah Palin and her family.

Females have absolutely no right to be involved in politics, business, government or journalism if they are intelligent, good looking, extrovert, smart, caring, hardworking and/or not afraid to tell the truth no matter who it harms/hurts. Especially those females who “don’t know their place” when confronted by superior intellect ego minded males who know what’s best for everyone in the world. Such females should be forced to stay home behind closed doors and cow-towing to their spouse’s every whim, wham and demand.

The superior intellect ego minded males have to face enough nightmares in their dreams and shouldn’t have to face these in real life. Eritas

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